Comments on: English and Irish may be closer than they think http://dedanaan.com/2007/03/05/english-and-irish-may-be-closer-than-they-think/ Myth is what we call other people's religion. Tue, 13 May 2008 11:14:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: Tomasz Gorski http://dedanaan.com/2007/03/05/english-and-irish-may-be-closer-than-they-think/#comment-25042 Tomasz Gorski Sun, 13 May 2007 11:31:02 +0000 http://dedanaan.com/2007/03/05/english-and-irish-may-be-closer-than-they-think/#comment-25042 Thanks for very interesting article Nicholas. btw. I really enjoyed reading all of your posts. It’s interesting to read ideas, and observations from someone else’s point of view… makes you think more. So please keep up the great work. Greetings Thanks for very interesting article Nicholas. btw. I really enjoyed reading all of your posts. It’s interesting to read ideas, and observations from someone else’s point of view… makes you think more. So please keep up the great work. Greetings

]]> By: Lee Mills http://dedanaan.com/2007/03/05/english-and-irish-may-be-closer-than-they-think/#comment-25140 Lee Mills Thu, 24 May 2007 17:17:36 +0000 http://dedanaan.com/2007/03/05/english-and-irish-may-be-closer-than-they-think/#comment-25140 Hi, I feel I need to clarify something about the British and Irish view. According to historians, they claim that the irish, scottish and welsh are different people genetically than the english people. They say that the English descend from Germanic and Scandinavian influences whilst the Irish, Scottish and Welsh descend from the Celtic people. I would like to point out that through my own research, I have not come across any real evidence to support any significant impact the germanic and viking people have had on English soil. We are told that the germanic tribes (angles and saxons etc) came to England in large numbers. They say this but can't put a true figure on how many arrived and settled in England. Regardless of how many settled in England, what is significant is that all these four nations have been mixing for hundreds of years if not more. More recently since the 1950's, there have been approx 800,000 people from Ireland who came to live in england, a quarter of the Irish population. There have been as many as 800,000 people from Scotland who have moved to England, one fifth of their population. There have been over 400,000 English people who have moved into Scotland. The statistics and findings go on. The point is, that we are all somewhere in our families related to one another whether we accept these findings or not. The sad thing is that so many people hold on to their percieved identities rather than their REAL IDENTITIES. This is particularly true in Scotland, Wales and more so in Ireland. Hi, I feel I need to clarify something about the British and Irish view.
According to historians, they claim that the irish, scottish and welsh are different people genetically than the english people. They say that the English descend from Germanic and Scandinavian influences whilst the Irish, Scottish and Welsh descend from the Celtic people.
I would like to point out that through my own research, I have not come across any real evidence to support any significant impact the germanic and viking people have had on English soil. We are told that the germanic tribes (angles and saxons etc) came to England in large numbers.
They say this but can’t put a true figure on how many arrived and settled in England.
Regardless of how many settled in England, what is significant is that all these four nations have been mixing for hundreds of years if not more. More recently since the 1950’s, there have been approx 800,000 people from Ireland who came to live in england, a quarter of the Irish population. There have been as many as 800,000 people from Scotland who have moved to England, one fifth of their population. There have been over 400,000 English people who have moved into Scotland. The statistics and findings go on. The point is, that we are all somewhere in our families related to one another whether we accept these findings or not. The sad thing is that so many people hold on to their percieved identities rather than their REAL IDENTITIES. This is particularly true in Scotland, Wales and more so in Ireland.

]]> By: Aine MacDermot http://dedanaan.com/2007/03/05/english-and-irish-may-be-closer-than-they-think/#comment-25141 Aine MacDermot Thu, 24 May 2007 18:10:03 +0000 http://dedanaan.com/2007/03/05/english-and-irish-may-be-closer-than-they-think/#comment-25141 Historians didn't rely on genetics to write their histories. It's only in relatively recent times we've even had genetics as a science. The impact of the Vikings upon England was profound and prolonged. English language, culture and politics were <strong>all</strong> changed as a result of invasions and settlements. One of the most significant of the "northmen" invasions was that of William the Conqueror (Duke of Normandy) in 1066, and his success at the Battle of Hastings resulted in the Norman control of England. The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Conquest" rel="nofollow">Norman Conquest</a> is a watershed event in English history, and not at all insignificant. The English have been intermarrying ever since. In fact, if you trace the current monarch's family tree, you'd see that her ancestors were actually Germans, not English. Historians didn’t rely on genetics to write their histories. It’s only in relatively recent times we’ve even had genetics as a science.

The impact of the Vikings upon England was profound and prolonged. English language, culture and politics were all changed as a result of invasions and settlements. One of the most significant of the “northmen” invasions was that of William the Conqueror (Duke of Normandy) in 1066, and his success at the Battle of Hastings resulted in the Norman control of England. The Norman Conquest is a watershed event in English history, and not at all insignificant.

The English have been intermarrying ever since. In fact, if you trace the current monarch’s family tree, you’d see that her ancestors were actually Germans, not English.

]]> By: budowa domów http://dedanaan.com/2007/03/05/english-and-irish-may-be-closer-than-they-think/#comment-25210 budowa domów Tue, 29 May 2007 13:12:29 +0000 http://dedanaan.com/2007/03/05/english-and-irish-may-be-closer-than-they-think/#comment-25210 Good article Good article

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